three or four months with the debt ceiling. so the sequester is the next thing that republicans -- >> yes, sequester and the budget. and, i don't know what richard things, but my view was -- >> hasn't been a budget in four years -- >> there has been a budget. not a stand-alone budget. they just keep continuing the budget that already exists. >> is that a problem? >> it can be a problem. >> how do you -- >> i think it was -- i blame partisanship in washington. i don't think that's any one person's fault by any means. i think not making the fight about the debt ceiling, which has the unfortunate downside that if you mess it up, the u.s. government defaults, and it's a financial catastrophe, this was a sign of maturity. i think on the republicans' part that let's make it about the budget. so the budget is now going to come to so-called continuing resolution. they're going to have to have a fight about a government shutdown. this is what they should be arguing about. what does the government spend money on? what should it spend mon